What I learned about "moving up" in the game biz

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Hi all,

You may (or most likely may not) remember my post last year asking for advice on breaking in. I got a lot of great advice, from which I realized I needed to relocate to a games biz "hot spot." So I packed my clothes and moved to the SF bay area and found a job in the industry as a web developer. It's been a year and a few months since I broke into the industry last July, and since then I have learned a few things I'd like to share. Recently, I relocated to Beijing China, and will start as a producer for iPhone/casual games starting next year.

Although my own path to "breaking in" has really been fit to my own background, I feel that I have picked up on a few things about "moving up" in the industry, once you are in, that are applicable to anyone trying to get a promotion. Working at a free-2-play MMO publisher for a year, I had good personal relationships with most people in the company. I met some people like me: young or old game lovers who were doing whatever they could to get into the industry and move up. I met people who started in QA and had become senior producers (and talked to them about what kind of people they hire and promote). I also met fast-risers who were quickly promoted within weeks, as well as people who had been around for years but seemed to be getting nowhere.

What I have realized from my experiences is that getting a promotion to Associate Producer (or whatever position you seek), has a lot less to do with a checklist of things you need to do, and more about how you conduct yourself as a professional. I think the same applies with breaking in as well. There is no shortage of people wanting to work in the industry, but there is definitely a shortage of people who are self-motivated and have high expectations for themselves when it comes to their work. Unfortunately I have encountered quite a few people with the opposite attitude: "grunts" that constantly seek outside guidance on "what to do" and "if its good enough." Worse (and this is something that several managers have complained to me about), is a sense of "entitlement" when it comes to raises, promotions, recognition, etc. That is, feeling like you deserve something because of the time you have been at a company and that your hidden potential has been squandered on a menial job (which you have achieved mediocrity at).

The truth is that at many companies, and especially in the games industry, you are constantly given the opportunity to "step up" and perform duties or help out with tasks that are outside of your job description. My advice to newcomers is to take those opportunities regardless of how busy you are and whether you get paid for the overtime you may have to put in. Investing in your image as a professional who can get things done, with quality, on time, and with flexibility is, in my opinion, the key factor in advancing in the games industry.

Maybe these are things that apply to any kind of job, but in my conversation with managers (and in my own short experience as project lead for a game mod project), this is definitely the deciding factor. Any number of years of "industry experience" can never trump "can I trust him to do this job well, and can I trust him to do it without constant management?" I think by and large, people who qualify in relation to that question are the ones I've seen get promotions.

Industry vets, let me know if you agree or think i'm completely wrong Smile

As always, have appreciated the advice here. Cheers,
Pin

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Very well put, Pin!

Very well put, Pin! Glasses

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Well said! I can agree that

Well said!

I can agree that this definitely translates between different related fields. I, for instance, don't work in games, but my company uses similar pipelines for their software development (VR stuff).

Most at the company are perfectly fine with just doing enough to get by. There's no attitude or excitement. So when I, someone who doesn't favor complacency, started work, did rather well because I was constantly given new ways to show my ability to work across many areas. And within the first year, I outranked over half the company (despite being the youngest by almost 2 years); yeah, they rank everybody here, I think it's strange.

Just need to show the drive and it's not hard to float to the top.

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Good points... but in my

Good points... but in my experience sometimes "bosses" take advantage of good workers and since they get so much from them, they don't let the workers grow, because they would lose them...
 
Illogical, I know, but it does happen...

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Sometimes.

Robert Ferraro wrote:
sometimes "bosses" take advantage of good workers and since they get so much from them, they don't let the workers grow

Yes. Sometimes. Bad bosses. But there's more to the equation than the variable "sometimes" and "bad boss." There's also the individual who is sometimes held back by a bad boss. He has freedom to act in his own interest in a number of ways. And once he's established himself as a valuable contributor, his freedom includes:
- Asking for promotion
- Asking for a good reason for not being promoted
- Looking for work elsewhere
- And even more.

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As a student in the process

As a student in the process of getting back into college majoring in game development and marketing, this is clearly great information to use. As I hope to "break into" the video game industry, trying your hardest and persevering is something that I will constantly perform. Thanks for the information Smile

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When I worked at a local

When I worked at a local software company this is exactly how everything worked. The more you helped the company grow the quicker you got promoted.

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I appreciate the information.

I really do appreciate you sharing information about your experiences in the games industry Pin. I have my sights set on entering the game industry also, and this kind of information is invaluable to me. So thanks a lotto you, and everyone that keeps responding with additional helpful information. I shall not take it lightly. Smile

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very good advice. and for the

very good advice. and for the most part the things you covered apply to nearly all job environments. there will always be people there just doing "enough" to not get fired to ensure they keep getting a paycheck. then there will people who actually give a sh*t about what they are doing at their job and seek to move up in the chain of command..

once again, good post.

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