GASIG Meeting 20-February-2006

International Game Developers Association

To: d.grammenos@hotmail.com, kjb@it.rit.edu, koyote@myrealbox.com, s9walke3@hotmail.com, thomas@pininteractive.com

Start Time: 11:02:37 AM; End Time: 11:52:01 AM

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (11:02:39 AM) hi

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (11:02:44 AM) I brb

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (11:02:50 AM) 10 minutes

Kevin has been added to the conversation.

Eric has been added to the conversation.

michelle says: (11:03:13 AM) anyone out there?

Kevin says: (11:06:56 AM) Hi, I back.

Kevin says: (11:07:02 AM) I'm back

michelle says: (11:07:26 AM) hi!

michelle says: (11:07:35 AM) thomas said he'd be back in ten minutes

Kevin says: (11:07:53 AM) OK, I just had to meet with some students and their interpreter.

michelle says: (11:07:56 AM) barrie can't make it today but sent me (by snail mail) a bunch of stuff for the accessibility arcade

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michelle says: (11:08:27 AM) not much to talk about today other than just to touch base

Kevin says: (11:09:23 AM) I posted my outline Sunday. It's a bit unformatted, but has all the info I plan to cover at a high level.

michelle says: (11:09:34 AM) yep -- i saw that and saw thomas'

Dimitris says: (11:09:45 AM) hi all...

Dimitris says: (11:09:58 AM) i ll try to add ours tomorrow...

michelle says: (11:10:35 AM) ok, i just added him to my messenger -- is he online?

Dimitris says: (11:10:46 AM) yep...

michelle says: (11:11:04 AM) i can't add him to the meeting until he accepts my invite

michelle says: (11:11:07 AM) ah here we go! 

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Dimitris says: (11:12:15 AM) sorry, i got to go... John (the koyote guy) will participate on my behalf. Bye!

michelle says: (11:12:20 AM) ok bye!

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michelle says: (11:12:28 AM) hi john

koyote@myrealbox.com says: (11:12:33 AM) Hello everybody

michelle says: (11:12:45 AM) john will be replacing dimitris at gdc

koyote@myrealbox.com says: (11:12:51 AM) I'll be substituting Dimitris at GDC

michelle says: (11:13:14 AM) small meeting today -- just kind of touching base and making sure there aren't any major issues going on

michelle says: (11:14:00 AM) john -- could you email me your full name, email address, regular post mail address and a short (1 paragraph) bio so i can send that to the gdc folks? my email is hinn@uiuc.edu

koyote@myrealbox.com says: (11:14:31 AM) Ofcourse. I'll do it now

michelle says: (11:14:36 AM) great-- thanks!

michelle says: (11:15:17 AM) so for now, please put session outlines on this page of the wiki

michelle says: (11:15:18 AM) http://www.igda.org/wiki/index.php/Session_Outlines

michelle says: (11:15:39 AM) i'll move them to a better spot a little later but that gives us a good temp spot

michelle says: (11:18:08 AM) does anyone have any questions for now? we can have a short meeting.

Eric says: (11:22:30 AM) im fine for now, i think

michelle says: (11:22:45 AM) ok, sounds good.

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (11:23:11 AM) hi, catching up...

michelle says: (11:23:16 AM) well...why don't we just keep working on the outlines then

michelle says: (11:23:28 AM) eric -- have you and barrie been able to work on an outline?

michelle says: (11:23:44 AM) if so, please post anything you have at this point on the wiki at Hi -- the only main issue with the review sheet is that people are asking how much they should know about preventing school shootings compared with menarche -- so the items are kind of wide open

michelle says: (11:23:47 AM) oops

michelle says: (11:23:54 AM) sorry wrong topid

michelle says: (11:23:56 AM) topic

michelle says: (11:23:57 AM) lol

michelle says: (11:24:09 AM) http://www.igda.org/wiki/index.php/Session_Outlines

michelle says: (11:24:28 AM) i didn't realize i had something else on my clipboard!

Eric says: (11:24:40 AM) heh, yeah i can do that.

Eric says: (11:24:51 AM) (i think i can do that)

Eric says: (11:24:59 AM) if not, im sure barrie can

michelle says: (11:25:04 AM) so the other stuff i was talking about is a test for my students -- ignore the school shootings. 

Eric says: (11:25:25 AM) right =)

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (11:26:10 AM) should I move my outline from the Schedule page?

Eric says: (11:27:06 AM) ok, i've got to run. I will work with our outline today and hopefully have something on the wiki tonight or tomorrow.

michelle says: (11:27:25 AM) sounds good! thanks eric

michelle says: (11:27:37 AM) thomas...i think we need to move your talk to another spot

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michelle says: (11:27:51 AM) that time slot is for blind gamers

michelle says: (11:28:01 AM) we don't have any coverage of that topic now

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (11:28:38 AM) OK, no problem. I can talk about Terraformers as well. (i.e have two sessions)

koyote@myrealbox.com says: (11:28:42 AM) Hi, I'm back. Michelle, I've sent you the "bio". Can you please verify that you received it ?

michelle says: (11:29:21 AM) well we have richard, etc to talk about blind gamers

michelle says: (11:29:30 AM) we just have to decide where to put this topic

koyote@myrealbox.com says: (11:29:43 AM) Also: We'll (me and Dimitris) put the outline on the wiki tomorrow if that's ok with you...

michelle says: (11:30:12 AM) hi john -- got it!

michelle says: (11:30:14 AM) that's fine!

koyote@myrealbox.com says: (11:30:17 AM) But I can tell you the general spirit of the talk

koyote@myrealbox.com says: (11:30:24 AM) Thanks Michelle !

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (11:31:17 AM) Just a question: Do we really have to have a strict divide between disabilities? I think it could be better to focus on accessibility rather than disability. So, for instance Reids talk about CC could be labeled Closed Captioning rather than "Deaf gamers"

michelle says: (11:32:12 AM) well, the only reason why is that sometimes something that helps a deaf gamer might cause something to be less accessible for a blind gamer

michelle says: (11:32:42 AM) Reid's talk can focus on closed caption (as I'm sure it will) and he can talk about other ways it's useful

michelle says: (11:32:59 AM) why don't we move your talk to the concluding remarks

michelle says: (11:33:19 AM) and i think it's important to discuss the different needs of different groups

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (11:34:01 AM) OK, closing remarks is fine with me! Should I talk about Visual too? I have nothing against it, it's just that I've done it so many times now 

michelle says: (11:34:03 AM) to avoid having people think that one change will make a game accessible when really it is just making it kind of accessible

michelle says: (11:34:16 AM) no, let's let richard and the others handle visual

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (11:34:20 AM) OK!

michelle says: (11:34:39 AM) ok we'll change the closing remarks then to emerging trends

michelle says: (11:34:53 AM) and then after that we'll have the panel

michelle says: (11:34:58 AM) for questions and answers

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (11:35:09 AM) OK!

koyote@myrealbox.com says: (11:36:45 AM) We are thinking of presenting our topic through examples from the ua-chess game and the accessible invaders game. BTW, did anyone have the chance to take a look at the access-invaders game ?

koyote@myrealbox.com says: (11:36:54 AM) (I think Dimitris sent the link)

michelle says: (11:37:10 AM) yes, that works john -- reid and others are presenting their topics through other means too

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (11:37:28 AM) yes I tried it, nice!

michelle says: (11:37:38 AM) it helps focus things while talking without lecturing

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (11:38:07 AM) i.e I tried access-invaders

koyote@myrealbox.com says: (11:38:24 AM) Dimitris asked me to put the following features: 1) Speed increase / decrease function 2) "Turn-off-the-lights" mode

michelle says: (11:38:42 AM) so you guys are presenting on mobility, right?

koyote@myrealbox.com says: (11:39:01 AM) I think those will be usefull for the the demo

koyote@myrealbox.com says: (11:39:07 AM) Yes michelle

michelle says: (11:39:26 AM) ok great -- actually there is one other person, eric, who was here for a sec and had to leave

michelle says: (11:39:32 AM) he's presenting as well

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michelle says: (11:39:47 AM) eric -- are you still out there?

michelle says: (11:40:09 AM) quick question -- are you presenting on both mobility disabilities and learning disabilities?

michelle says: (11:40:45 AM) so john you may be presenting along with eric walker

koyote@myrealbox.com says: (11:40:50 AM) Only mobility (I think) ... Dimitris didn't tell me anything about learning disabilities

michelle says: (11:41:01 AM) no, eric is doing learning disabilities

michelle says: (11:41:08 AM) but also is down for mobility as well

koyote@myrealbox.com says: (11:41:20 AM) Yes, Hello eric!

michelle says: (11:41:30 AM) eric may or may not still be around

michelle says: (11:41:33 AM) he's "away"

koyote@myrealbox.com says: (11:41:51 AM) That's ok

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (11:41:59 AM) Göran will send his roundtable topics/questions later tonight and I'll insert them into the wiki

Kevin says: (11:42:28 AM) I was one of the other people helping out with the learning disabilities portion

michelle says: (11:42:33 AM) sounds good

michelle says: (11:42:52 AM) ah, ok -- alright i was just having a bit of a panic attack with all the changes

michelle says: (11:42:56 AM) dimitris can

koyote@myrealbox.com says: (11:43:01 AM) One last thing I want you to tell me: If we are putting access-invaders on the cd, when do you want me to have a "final version" ready ?

michelle says: (11:43:04 AM) can't attend -- not sure if you all heard that

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (11:43:48 AM) March 12 is the deadline for uploading to the FTP server as we will burn the CDs the day after (March 13)

koyote@myrealbox.com says: (11:44:14 AM) Ok thanks ! so I have time until the 13 th ?

koyote@myrealbox.com says: (11:44:24 AM) ... I mean the 12 th ...

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (11:44:50 AM) until March 12 23:59:59 

michelle says: (11:45:05 AM) what time zone???

koyote@myrealbox.com says: (11:45:14 AM) lol 

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (11:47:04 AM) good point, let's say PST (San Francisco time). March 12, 23:59:59 PST

michelle says: (11:47:29 AM) ok -- yeah, let's include that in an email just to avoid confusion. 

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (11:47:38 AM) good!

michelle says: (11:48:02 AM) not that any of us do things at the last minute... (me, me, me)

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (11:48:08 AM) 

michelle says: (11:48:43 AM) ok so does that cover everything for right now? just keep working on outlines and we'll get the wiki shaped up

koyote@myrealbox.com says: (11:48:55 AM) The greeks did the olympics at the last minute 

michelle says: (11:49:30 AM) whoa...that's a lot to live up to! i guess we can get the track ready in time for gdc! 

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (11:49:44 AM) yes, but they had done it some thousand years before too 

michelle says: (11:49:58 AM) yeah, surely they remember from then 

koyote@myrealbox.com says: (11:50:02 AM) Good point 

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (11:50:23 AM) OK, see you wednesday

koyote@myrealbox.com says: (11:50:35 AM) bye !

michelle says: (11:50:38 AM) ok sounds good -- see everyone wednesday, same time, same place 

michelle says: (11:50:40 AM) bye!

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (11:50:46 AM) yes bye!

Kevin says: (11:51:13 AM) I'll be missing Wednesday - final accessibility class - they are presenting their projects, so it should be interesting.

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (11:51:28 AM) OK!

michelle says: (11:51:29 AM) ah great! no problem.

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Kevin says: (11:51:44 AM) bye

michelle says: (11:51:47 AM) bye!

koyote@myrealbox.com says: (11:51:54 AM) bye

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