GASIG Meeting 3-February-2006

International Game Developers Association

[edit] Game Accessibility Meeting; 3 February 2006

Members Present:

• Michelle Hinn (MSN ID: vrgrrl@hotmail.com)
• Robert Florio (MSN ID: arthit73@cablespeed.com)
• Barrie Ellis (MSN ID: barrie.ellis@oneswitch.org.uk)
• Dimitris Grammenos (MSN ID: d.grammenos@hotmail.com)
• Goran Lange (MSN ID: goran.lange@ped.su.se)
• Tim Chase (MSN ID: gumnos@hotmail.com)
• Maureen G (MSN ID: misty820@hotmail.com)
• Richard van Tol
• Thomas Westin (MSN ID: thomas@pininteractive.com)
• Tom Buscaglia (MSN ID: thombusc@intelaw.com)

Meeting Transcript:

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (11:05:49 AM) hi michelle

goran.lange@ped.su.se (E-mail Address Not Verified) says: (11:05:53 AM) Hi Michelle

michelle says: (11:05:55 AM) whew

Barrie (One Switch) says: (11:05:57 AM) Hello

michelle says: (11:05:57 AM) thank god

michelle says: (11:06:13 AM) i had to run from my office to a coffee shop to get connected!

michelle says: (11:06:29 AM) my office network is down

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (11:06:38 AM) ok

michelle says: (11:06:47 AM) and then this coffee shop doesn't like macs...but someone else helped and saved the day 

michelle says: (11:07:13 AM) ok i just got everyone else on!

goran.lange@ped.su.se (E-mail Address Not Verified) says: (11:07:25 AM) Hello everybody

Dimitris says: (11:07:40 AM) Hello everybody!

michelle says: (11:07:47 AM) Hi big group today! 

gumnos (Tim Chase) says: (11:07:52 AM) howdy

Barrie (One Switch) says: (11:07:52 AM) Hi all.

michelle says: (11:08:12 AM) So If I haven't met you before (ie, it's your first meeting), I'm Michelle, the chair of the GA SIG

michelle says: (11:08:18 AM) most of you know me though 

michelle says: (11:08:43 AM) so this meeting is to try and tie up some loose ends and get into the planning for GDC

Arthit73 says: (11:09:09 AM) RobertFlorio here everyone. Hello.

goran.lange@ped.su.se (E-mail Address Not Verified) says: (11:09:13 AM) It's my first meeting but I have been following your work thru thomas

michelle says: (11:09:16 AM) Again, sorry for my connection snafu -- hopefully I won't get disconnected again!

michelle says: (11:09:20 AM) excellent

michelle says: (11:09:29 AM) just a sec -- let me pull up the wiki

Mo says: (11:09:37 AM) hey michelle

Mo says: (11:09:55 AM) and everyone

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (11:09:59 AM) is there some new stuff at the wiki

michelle says: (11:10:18 AM) http://www.igda.org/wiki/index.php/GDC_2006_Tutorial

michelle says: (11:10:24 AM) no, there was supposed to be

michelle says: (11:10:33 AM) but my home network was out last night

Arthit73 says: (11:10:33 AM) Thank you for that link. I keep forgetting it.

michelle says: (11:10:59 AM) this is where the final schedule will be going once i can post it -- the document is on my desktop at my lab...

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (11:11:02 AM) brb

michelle says: (11:11:08 AM) so ok, first...the tshirts!

michelle says: (11:11:14 AM) let's get that out of the way!

Barrie (One Switch) says: (11:11:19 AM) deep breaths...

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (11:11:21 AM) yes

michelle says: (11:11:34 AM) as thomas suggested...i'm going to choose the design 

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (11:11:40 AM) good

michelle says: (11:11:48 AM) we can have more than one design up at cafe press

michelle says: (11:12:10 AM) but for now, we'll just put the GDC 06 shirts up

Arthit73 says: (11:12:12 AM) Which one do you like. Talking about T-shirt design?

Ries says: (11:12:19 AM) hi!

michelle says: (11:12:21 AM) microsoft is looking at the cost

Ries says: (11:12:24 AM) (rush rush from the gym)

michelle says: (11:12:37 AM) no worries -- i had internet connection snafus!

michelle says: (11:12:52 AM) so microsoft *MAY* be sponsoring the shirts we giveaway

Ries says: (11:13:01 AM) that's good news!

Barrie (One Switch) says: (11:13:07 AM) Would they want their name on there too?

Arthit73 says: (11:13:11 AM) That is really good.

michelle says: (11:13:20 AM) yes, they would have their logo on the sleeve or on the back

michelle says: (11:13:43 AM) i'm trying to get that settled with them now.

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (11:13:49 AM) great

Barrie (One Switch) says: (11:14:00 AM) Good luck with it. I think they have a few quid.

michelle says: (11:14:11 AM) they may have some artists that can help us with the final design too

michelle says: (11:14:28 AM) so let's just call that closed for now...and then it'll be a surprise 

thombusc says: (11:14:28 AM) sorry I'm late...

michelle says: (11:14:33 AM) no worries

michelle says: (11:14:43 AM) since we have so many new people at today's meeting

michelle says: (11:14:52 AM) why don't we do a round of introductions

michelle says: (11:15:54 AM) ugh internet connection dropped

Mo says: (11:16:01 AM)

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michelle says: (11:16:02 AM) yes start the intros

Mo says: (11:16:06 AM) ok

michelle says: (11:16:19 AM) and thomas -- can you run the meeting if i happen to lose my connectionentirely?

Ries says: (11:16:04 AM) alright, for all of you who don't know me: my name is Richard van Tol, from Amsterdam (The Netherlands)

Ries says: (11:16:17 AM) I work at the Accessibility foundation in Holland

Ries says: (11:16:31 AM) doing a PhD in Game Audio Design at the Uni. of Portsmouth

Ries says: (11:16:43 AM) and...er... coming to this years GDC

michelle says: (11:16:44 AM) thomas -- can you run the meeting if my connection runs ouut

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (11:16:49 AM) yes

Ries says: (11:16:51 AM) oh, and I'm webmaster of AudioGames.net

Ries says: (11:16:59 AM) (that's it, next one)

Barrie (One Switch) says: (11:17:31 AM) I'm Barrie Ellis. www.OneSwitch.org.uk is my accessibility effort - I'm especially interested in games accessible to severely disabled gamers. Especially learning disabled gamers, who I work with 4 days a week in day services.

thombusc says: (11:17:48 AM) we need a more visible list of attendees...in alpha order

michelle says: (11:18:12 AM) So I'm Michelle, the chair of the IGDA Game Accessibility SIG -- I'm finishing my PhD at the University of Illinois. I'll be MC-ing the day-long tutorial, the roundtable and the meet and greet at GDC

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (11:19:02 AM) I'm Thomas. I started this SIG in 2003, and chairperson until summer 2004. Also created Terraformers a 3D game playable by blind. Also work at Stockholm University, Sweden together with Göran.

Mo says: (11:19:42 AM) i'm mo and im an undergrad at the university of illinois, im a sophomore in civil engineering and i know michelle through housing. ill be helpng her out with the tutorial.

michelle says: (11:20:04 AM) Yes Mo will be one of two of my students who will be helping run the accessibility arcade

Barrie (One Switch) says: (11:20:36 AM) That will be fun, Mo! But hectic.

Mo says: (11:20:41 AM) hehe

Arthit73 says: (11:20:44 AM) This is Robert Florio and I am a quadriplegic videogame design student at the Art Institute online. I draw and paint with my mouth and design accessible games for my physical disability from a spinal cord injury.

gumnos (Tim Chase) says: (11:21:06 AM) I'm Tim--by day, a developer for a small ISV near Dallas, TX; by night, hobbiest developer.

michelle says: (11:21:10 AM) yes, hectic -- the more the merrier -- mo can also help us with "demos" on stage

Arthit73 says: (11:22:02 AM) Check out my work at www.RobertFlorio.com with my artwork and efforts with game excessability

michelle says: (11:22:19 AM) Reid, who can't be here today is about to move to San Franscisco

Ries says: (11:22:22 AM) Nice to finally have a chat with you, Robert!

thombusc says: (11:22:25 AM) Hey everyone...Mmy name is Tom Buscaglia, I am a game attorney and IGDA board member. I'll be participating in the GC program - presenting on US laws that addesss acessibility issues.

michelle says: (11:22:41 AM) He's agreed to be our in town contact for sending consoles, etc to him ahead of GDC

Arthit73 says: (11:22:45 AM) I agree same here

thombusc says: (11:22:55 AM) ant I have very bad typoing skills

Dimitris says: (11:22:59 AM) hi, I'm Dimitris . I am the lead Interaction designer of the Human-Computer Laboratory of the Institute of Computer Science of the Foundation for Research & Technology - Hellas. I have been involded in several projects related to Universal Access & Design for All. I chaired a session dedicated to Accessible Games at the HCI International conference last summer.

Dimitris says: (11:23:19 AM) I also have developed UA-Chess and accessible web-based chess game...

michelle says: (11:23:22 AM) Yes, Dimitris was in charge of the session that our SIG paper was in -- Kevin presented

michelle says: (11:23:50 AM) Ok, great -- I think that's everyone?

goran.lange@ped.su.se (E-mail Address Not Verified) says: (11:23:53 AM) My name is Göran Lange I have worked at the uni. of Stockholm at the institution for educational sciences since 1992 witlh multimedia education and digitalculture. Earlier I worked ten years in the graphic industry here in Sweden.

michelle says: (11:24:01 AM) Ahh one more 

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (11:24:19 AM) nice to meet you all!

Barrie (One Switch) says: (11:24:34 AM) ditto

michelle says: (11:24:36 AM) Yes nice to see such a great turn out with such short notice!

Ries says: (11:24:36 AM) Sander (Huiberts), my collegue in almost everything I do and who is also coming to the GDC, couldn't make it today, but he will join us for the next chat

Ries says: (11:24:44 AM) nice to meet you all too!

Ries says: (11:24:45 AM) 

michelle says: (11:25:02 AM) so here's what I want to talk about today (i'm also telling you this in case i lose my connection again...rrr)

michelle says: (11:25:22 AM) 1. getting together in san jose the sunday before the monday tutorial

michelle says: (11:25:31 AM) 2. the cd printing

michelle says: (11:25:39 AM) 3. the top ten list printing

michelle says: (11:25:49 AM) 4. the tutorial plan!

michelle says: (11:26:00 AM) any thing else to add to that?

Barrie (One Switch) says: (11:26:08 AM) The accessible arcade?

michelle says: (11:26:18 AM) yep, we'll include that in the tutorial plan

gumnos (Tim Chase) says: (11:26:23 AM) well...already took care of tshirts  (ducks and runs)

Ries says: (11:26:28 AM) hihi

michelle says: (11:26:30 AM) hehe 

michelle says: (11:26:56 AM) yep i think i'll make the tshirt look like some abstract art and just put "accessibility" on it

michelle says: (11:26:58 AM) that's it

michelle says: (11:27:00 AM)



Barrie (One Switch) says: (11:27:15 AM) Please don't surprise us with the inaccessible sewn up T-shirt idea(!)

michelle says: (11:27:18 AM) oh and 5. the meeting plan! 

michelle says: (11:27:30 AM) you know...we NEED to have one tshirt on display that way

michelle says: (11:27:35 AM) at the meet and greet social

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (11:27:49 AM) roundtables?

michelle says: (11:28:06 AM) roundtables are the top ten list stuff

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (11:28:24 AM) ok

michelle says: (11:28:29 AM) that's more of an open conversation about specific quick items

michelle says: (11:28:36 AM) so less to plan for there

michelle says: (11:28:45 AM) ok let's start with #5

michelle says: (11:28:49 AM) meeting plan 

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (11:29:08 AM) you mean a schedule for meetings until GDC 2006?

michelle says: (11:29:18 AM) So do Mondays and Fridays at this time work for most of you

michelle says: (11:29:27 AM) I realize everyone won't be able to attend every meeting

Barrie (One Switch) says: (11:29:40 AM) Fridays no problems at this time, Mondays I will do my best.

thombusc says: (11:29:41 AM) mostly...but mondays I am more likely to forgat...

michelle says: (11:29:46 AM) should we add a third day? should we have days dedicated to themes?

Arthit73 says: (11:29:47 AM) I will attend when I can but as they were

Ries says: (11:30:06 AM) fridays is easier for me too, since mondays and tuesdays Sander and I are usually in public transport during the chat-time

goran.lange@ped.su.se (E-mail Address Not Verified) says: (11:30:16 AM) I can attend monday nights and some fridays

Dimitris says: (11:30:30 AM) i ve no problem with both days... 

Mo says: (11:30:31 AM) both are fine for me

gumnos (Tim Chase) says: (11:30:40 AM) I kinda like today's last-minute-ness...the email saying "meeting in 10 minutes"  Get whomever you can.

michelle says: (11:30:45 AM) ok, so it's sounds good for most

michelle says: (11:30:56 AM) lol

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (11:31:04 AM) evenings have become an increasing problematic time for me with two small kids, but daytime in sweden means night-time in the US so, I'll do my best to attend as much as possible

Ries says: (11:31:12 AM) I copy Tim, nothing wrong with a few occasional last minute spontanious chats

michelle says: (11:31:23 AM) of course -- yes with so many of us all over the world, it gets difficult

michelle says: (11:31:45 AM) so we'll be communicating via mailing list and wiki to let everyone keep up.

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (11:31:56 AM) yes

michelle says: (11:32:04 AM) resolution for me -- i WILL fix the wiki page so that it has the schedule on it before Monday's meeting!!!!!!

Ries says: (11:32:14 AM) great

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (11:32:20 AM) OK 

michelle says: (11:32:31 AM) Monday we'll take that schedule piece by piece, hour by hour

michelle says: (11:32:46 AM) and assign people to the planning of certain hours

Arthit73 says: (11:32:52 AM) At the conference how can we tell where everything is located?

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (11:33:05 AM) also, the main SIG page still says next meeting is in august 2005 or something. Perhaps we could update it to say something about the GDC tutorial, with a link

michelle says: (11:33:07 AM) they will have a conference booklet with all the meeting rooms on it

Arthit73 says: (11:33:18 AM) Is that the meeting we are talking about? Thank you.

michelle says: (11:33:30 AM) ha -- yes, i JUST got that password back from jason

michelle says: (11:33:41 AM) resolution #2 for michelle -- I WILL update the blog!

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (11:33:49 AM) 

michelle says: (11:33:51 AM) before monday 

michelle says: (11:34:40 AM) So the online planning meetings will be at noon (new york time) on mondays and fridays -- and i'll send the link to the world time clock on the mailing list

michelle says: (11:34:56 AM) this is the planning for gdc 

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (11:35:08 AM) robert, at the conference you get detailed info with maps to everything, so you will find quite easy where everything is located

gumnos (Tim Chase) says: (11:35:30 AM) I'd suggest it would be good to put out an email to the list on the morning of the meetings, just for those of us who are *ehem* a tad forgetful.

thombusc says: (11:35:40 AM) yes yes yes

Arthit73 says: (11:35:47 AM) Thank you and signing up for those events has to take place before the conference. How many people have signed up for our event particularly?

michelle says: (11:35:53 AM) that was great that jason from the igda let us know that if you win a scholarship that they'll include passes for people who will assist you

michelle says: (11:36:35 AM) yes! i agree tim and tom -- my net connection was down at home, then at my lab so i could only squeek out that note that said i was trying to connect 

michelle says: (11:36:46 AM) anyone want to be in charge of sending the meeting reminders?

Ries says: (11:36:47 AM) ? Which events before the conference ?

Arthit73 says: (11:36:48 AM) Scholarship for me includes a trip to a Microsoft studio I believe and I will need transportation handicap transportation if selected. I hope they will pay and arrange for that

michelle says: (11:37:08 AM) anyone less forgetful than me?

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (11:37:15 AM) I can try

michelle says: (11:37:23 AM) ok maybe lets all try

Barrie (One Switch) says: (11:37:27 AM) Good luck Robert. Can I just confirm that Eric Walker of Ominous Development is all okay to attend the day and give my/our presentation?

michelle says: (11:37:30 AM) and then hopefully one of us will do it!

michelle says: (11:37:37 AM) ah yes eric is in

Barrie (One Switch) says: (11:37:44 AM) Great stuff!

Ries says: (11:37:51 AM) Barrie, you are not coming?

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (11:37:58 AM) I'll put a repeat in my scheduler to send those reminders out

Arthit73 says: (11:38:09 AM) Yes sorry begin your presentation

Barrie (One Switch) says: (11:38:28 AM) Hello Eric!

Barrie (One Switch) says: (11:39:09 AM) No, I'm not going unfortunately - mainly due to finances. But Eric has kindly offered to present a piece that I will write / co-write.

michelle says: (11:39:15 AM) http://www.cmpevents.com/GD06/a.asp?option=C&V=11&SessID=1903

michelle says: (11:39:30 AM) yes eric's name is on there -- eric have you been receiving emails from the conference people yet?

Eric says: (11:39:46 AM) yeah, I've got a couple

michelle says: (11:39:51 AM) ok great

michelle says: (11:40:02 AM) ignore the AV request form -- i'll take care of that

michelle says: (11:40:17 AM) no need for every single one of us to send them something different 

Eric says: (11:40:38 AM) yeah, i figured someone would have a handle on that...

michelle says: (11:40:40 AM) ok agenda item #1 now

michelle says: (11:40:57 AM) Meeting "live" the sunday before the conference

Ries says: (11:41:12 AM) yes...

michelle says: (11:41:19 AM) so i can't remember who said that they were getting in at 11pm sunday night

Ries says: (11:41:22 AM) Sander and I

michelle says: (11:41:27 AM) ahhhhh

Ries says: (11:41:28 AM) unfortunately

Ries says: (11:41:31 AM) 

Barrie (One Switch) says: (11:41:45 AM) (sheesh)

michelle says: (11:41:50 AM) ok, no problem -- boy you'll be jetlagged! the tutorial is monday morning!

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (11:42:08 AM) do someone know of a good place (bar + food) downtown / close to the conference?

Ries says: (11:42:10 AM) Not by flying west... only the other way round 

michelle says: (11:42:16 AM) ahhhhhh 

michelle says: (11:42:27 AM) that's right... i'm so us centric!

Ries says: (11:42:28 AM) I usually wake up at 5 in the morning when I am in America

michelle says: (11:42:43 AM) excellent so we'll meet with you guys at 5am then?

michelle says: (11:42:48 AM) 

Dimitris says: (11:42:52 AM) I'm supposed to arrive at 6:37pm - after more than 26 hours of travelling 

michelle says: (11:42:58 AM) so what is everyone's arrival plan?

Ries says: (11:43:00 AM) You're more than welcome in our hotel room 

Arthit73 says: (11:43:03 AM) I thought the conference was March 22 -24. Monday would be something like that 20.

thombusc says: (11:43:05 AM) I'll probably still be up...

michelle says: (11:43:16 AM) yes, the tutorials start on the 20th

michelle says: (11:43:31 AM) i'm arriving saturday

Mo says: (11:43:37 AM) at like 8 we come in

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (11:43:39 AM) Robert, conference starts 22nd, but the tutorial is part of the pre-conference starting Monday 20

Barrie (One Switch) says: (11:43:47 AM) Check this link again, Robert - there's a fair bit there: http://www.cmpevents.com/GD06/a.asp?option=C&V=11&SessID=1903

Arthit73 says: (11:43:57 AM) I am all confused I don't know when to arrive now or when to leave. Any ideas? I'll check the link

Ries says: (11:44:12 AM) Best to arrive somewhere on saterday or sunday...

michelle says: (11:44:13 AM) i think if you win a scholarship you go the entire week

goran.lange@ped.su.se (E-mail Address Not Verified) says: (11:44:19 AM) thomas and I will be in San Francisco at 13.55

michelle says: (11:44:43 AM) So Mo, Kasey, and I will be at our hotel (Fairmont, across the convention center) Saturday evening

Arthit73 says: (11:44:47 AM) Thank you I will get more info after confirmation of scholarship winners. Also the link thanks

goran.lange@ped.su.se (E-mail Address Not Verified) says: (11:45:03 AM) at sunday that is 

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (11:45:05 AM) yes, and a friend will pick us up and drive us to San José (1 hour) so we'll be there about 15-16.00

Arthit73 says: (11:45:26 AM) I'll check with you all so I can meet up if I get there early. Earlier than I thought

Ries says: (11:45:30 AM) Sander and I will stay at the... err.... Howard Johnson Express Inn San Jose Convention Center

Ries says: (11:45:39 AM) should be two blocks away

michelle says: (11:45:45 AM) I'm hoping that Reid will be able to drive over to San Jose with equipment and then we can start figuring things out about the accessibility arcade

michelle says: (11:45:50 AM) on Saturday night

michelle says: (11:46:07 AM) then on Sunday -- so is anyone in before 4pm?

Arthit73 says: (11:46:11 AM) Do airplanes fly directly to San Jose airport? I think it's Oakland instead

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (11:46:16 AM) should we just decide to meet at say 19.00 outside of the San Jose Convention Center, and then find a place tó eat (and drink)?

michelle says: (11:46:19 AM) besides reid, mo, kasey, and i?

Barrie (One Switch) says: (11:46:23 AM) Are you all okay for getting there, Eric?

Mo says: (11:46:24 AM) theres an airport in san jose

thombusc says: (11:46:28 AM) yes

michelle says: (11:46:55 AM) or we can meet in the lobby of the fairmont hotel which is across the street

Ries says: (11:47:02 AM) (You can recognize Michelle by the t-shirt she's wearing)

Arthit73 says: (11:47:03 AM) I can't get a direct nonstop flight direct to San Jose. I'll check with the airlines personally instead of online

Ries says: (11:47:06 AM) 

michelle says: (11:47:16 AM) yeah it'll be sewn up 

Ries says: (11:47:22 AM) hahaha

Barrie (One Switch) says: (11:47:24 AM) Photos please!

Eric says: (11:47:27 AM) I think im ok. I was waiting to see when you guys wanted to meet on sunday. I also have to see if i can get my hotel reservation started a day earlier =)

thombusc says: (11:47:38 AM) Fairmont Lobby is my choice...I'll be stationed there for the week...just look for the drunk lawyer

Dimitris says: (11:47:45 AM) Since i m arriving at 7, we ll have to find a way to catch up with you a little later...

michelle says: (11:48:07 AM) I'm at the fairmont too -- I'll be the manic red and brown stripped hair girl

Arthit73 says: (11:48:07 AM) We need to know what T-shirt that will be. If you are I will be in stitches myself Michelle.

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (11:48:34 AM) OK we'll look for drunks and t-shirts at the Fairmont then 

Ries says: (11:48:44 AM) hahahahaha

michelle says: (11:48:45 AM) Ok I'll bring a sign too that says "lost? we can help!"

goran.lange@ped.su.se (E-mail Address Not Verified) says: (11:48:48 AM) lol

michelle says: (11:48:54 AM) so at 7pm on sunday?

gumnos (Tim Chase) says: (11:48:59 AM) stripped or striped hair?  Goin' for the bald look like myself?

michelle says: (11:49:08 AM) stripes 

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (11:49:16 AM) 

michelle says: (11:49:19 AM) i'm about to do something drastic with my hair again

Barrie (One Switch) says: (11:49:19 AM) Have you got everyone's mobile numbers, Michelle?

Arthit73 says: (11:49:20 AM) Wood photographs posted here of everyone help or somewhere?

michelle says: (11:49:28 AM) actually, no

michelle says: (11:49:41 AM) could everyone email me with their mobile #

Ries says: (11:49:44 AM) Sander and I arrive at 22:49, if it takes an hour to go to the hotel MAYBE we can meet you somewhere late in the evening?

michelle says: (11:49:49 AM) yeah photos are a good idea

Ries says: (11:49:59 AM) if you're still lying in some bar somewhere?

Ries says: (11:50:03 AM) or in some lobby?

Mo says: (11:50:12 AM) michelle, i think you have mine on the lis 199 list

goran.lange@ped.su.se (E-mail Address Not Verified) says: (11:50:13 AM) so now you have it 

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (11:50:15 AM) suggestion: we send michelle our cell phone numbers (including country codes if not US) so we can get in touch

michelle says: (11:50:16 AM) can everyone send me a photo of themselves and i'll make a "who's who" on the wiki site

thombusc says: (11:50:17 AM) http://www.igda.org/board/buscaglia.jpg

michelle says: (11:50:30 AM) yes and please let me know what hotel you'll be at

Ries says: (11:50:40 AM) aha...ok 

Arthit73 says: (11:50:44 AM) I'll need to get a hotel closest to the conference hopefully they have some. Wherever you meet I hope it's close to my hotel and conference I will not have wheelchair transportation.

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (11:50:57 AM) OK so an e-mail with telephone, e-mail and photo to michelle then

michelle says: (11:50:59 AM) so email me with mobile numbers (inc country code) and hotel info including when you are arriving and leaving gdc

michelle says: (11:51:17 AM) i'll then make some kind of document with all that on it for all of us

Ries says: (11:51:21 AM) good

michelle says: (11:51:43 AM) hinn@uiuc.edu -- don't use the hotmail address attached to this msn id!

thombusc says: (11:51:58 AM) the Hlkton is actually attached to the conf center

michelle says: (11:52:12 AM) but the fairmont is across, right?

thombusc says: (11:52:22 AM) and down the street

Arthit73 says: (11:52:25 AM) Thank you Thomas I will keep that hotel in mind maybe they have a restaurant or bar?

Dimitris says: (11:52:32 AM) yeah but i could not find any hotel close to the conf

Dimitris says: (11:52:43 AM) i had to book one near the airport...

michelle says: (11:52:48 AM) yikes!

Mo says: (11:52:52 AM) a few of the gdc emails said a lot of hotels were sold out

thombusc says: (11:52:57 AM) I think the new Hotel onthe other side of the cionf center is a mariott or raddison...never stayed there thouhg

Arthit73 says: (11:53:01 AM) That's terrible news for me I'll see if the Hilton is still there

thombusc says: (11:53:17 AM) byut th Fairmont is the hub...the lobby bar there is where it all happens

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (11:53:20 AM) we stay at the Comfort Inn, we booked quite recently, not fancy but OK

Ries says: (11:53:48 AM) Ours is about 15 minute walk or 5 minute taxi ride from the Convention Center

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (11:53:48 AM) rooms around 100 USD

michelle says: (11:53:49 AM) don't worry about it yet, robert -- i think the scholarship team helps find the hotel space too?

Arthit73 says: (11:53:55 AM) This will be a longer stay that I thought I might have to get financial assistance from family

Arthit73 says: (11:54:09 AM) Okay thanks for the relief I need to keep that in mind Michelle

michelle says: (11:54:20 AM) ok agenda item #2 then -- the top ten list print out

thombusc says: (11:54:24 AM) if you do not have a reservation now it will be impossible to get a room after monday night

michelle says: (11:54:30 AM) i'll take care of that with the igda

Arthit73 says: (11:54:39 AM) That doesn't sound good are you sure

thombusc says: (11:54:41 AM) I suggest you book in for sunday and monday where you can and then don;t check out

thombusc says: (11:55:02 AM) it is difficult for hotels to throw people out once they are in

Arthit73 says: (11:55:04 AM) So cancel in case I don't go but books a hotel now?

michelle says: (11:55:12 AM) yeah

gumnos (Tim Chase) says: (11:55:14 AM) The top-ten can be found in PDF at http://tim.thechases.com/top10.pdf just in case folks need it.

Arthit73 says: (11:55:20 AM) Thank you. Great info.

michelle says: (11:55:25 AM) ok cool -- i think we're ready to go with that

michelle says: (11:55:46 AM) is everyone ok with the top 10 as is? i'll handle the printing costs with the igda

michelle says: (11:55:55 AM) any special printing requests?

gumnos (Tim Chase) says: (11:56:15 AM) Color and laminated would be good...

Barrie (One Switch) says: (11:56:15 AM) I think it's really good.

Ries says: (11:56:21 AM) I think the contents is good

michelle says: (11:56:30 AM) i agree tim -- i'll try to get the best we can get

Ries says: (11:56:44 AM) but the layout, graphics, font, etc, needs some work

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (11:56:45 AM) yes, it's OK

Mo says: (11:56:59 AM) ok i have to get going, i have class soon  it was nice meeting you all

michelle says: (11:57:05 AM) yes, i'll work on that before printout time

Ries says: (11:57:06 AM) ltr Mo

michelle says: (11:57:12 AM) bye mo -- thanks for joining in!

Mo says: (11:57:14 AM) byebey

Arthit73 says: (11:57:17 AM) Same here have a great class

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (11:57:17 AM) bye

michelle says: (11:57:37 AM) mo is great -- she and kasey, my other student, will do a great job with the arcade

gumnos (Tim Chase) says: (11:57:51 AM) best we can get: "printed on gold-leaf with saffron-ink..." 

michelle says: (11:58:02 AM) plus they are both not shy so any "demos" we want to do, they'll be great sports about it

Arthit73 says: (11:58:11 AM) Some silly question is the accessible arcade actually games set up for people to play accessible games

Barrie (One Switch) says: (11:58:16 AM) That's great news.

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (11:58:30 AM) Michelle, do you print and copy those handouts of the top 10 list?

michelle says: (11:58:39 AM) yes, robert -- that's right! it will be during the lunch hour(s) the day of the tutorial

Dimitris says: (11:58:59 AM) sorry, thomas can you send me some info about the comfort Inn?

Arthit73 says: (11:58:59 AM) Thank you for that

michelle says: (11:58:59 AM) yes, thomas i print them out -- but i need to check with the igda on reimbursement

michelle says: (11:59:24 AM) i'll be making the papyrus for the list this weekend so that'll save on some costs

michelle says: (11:59:30 AM) 

Ries says: (11:59:34 AM) hehe

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (11:59:37 AM) dimitris: sure, I also sent it yesterday in the "compile done" e-mail to the list, just a minute

Barrie (One Switch) says: (11:59:52 AM) How far along are we with the accessible arcade? Are you still after some hardware? If I send some bits to Reid, will it be okay to get them sent back?

gumnos (Tim Chase) says: (11:59:59 AM) If you need, I should be able to create a landscape PDF with 2 copies on it, to make printing easier.

michelle says: (12:00:12 PM) yes we can send them back to you from san jose, no problem

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (12:00:14 PM) look at hotels.com

Dimitris says: (12:00:30 PM) thanks.. how close is it to the conf center?

michelle says: (12:00:30 PM) actually can you send me the original document un-PDF-ed?

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (12:00:52 PM) no idea  it says "downtown" in the description, that's all I know...

gumnos (Tim Chase) says: (12:00:56 PM) the original is an SVG file: http://tim.thechases.com/top10.svg

michelle says: (12:01:00 PM) ah great!

Barrie (One Switch) says: (12:01:07 PM) Will the accessible arcade info go up on the Wiki? I was wondering quite what to send.

michelle says: (12:01:34 PM) yes, that will go up this weekend with the schedule that i meant to put up last night 

michelle says: (12:01:57 PM) ok now item #3 (actually I think it was item #2 earlier but oh well!)

michelle says: (12:01:59 PM) the cd

Ries says: (12:02:04 PM) YEs...

michelle says: (12:02:12 PM) thomas -- i'm ok with you putting pin interactive as the sponsor

michelle says: (12:02:24 PM) any objections?

Barrie (One Switch) says: (12:02:30 PM) Nope.

gumnos (Tim Chase) says: (12:02:33 PM) You're welcome to put the PDF or SVG on the CD if you want. I'm gonna jet...work calls. Catch ya'll later.

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Ries says: (12:02:37 PM) sponsor for..?

Ries says: (12:02:48 PM) the cd...

michelle says: (12:02:49 PM) the print out of the CDs we'll hand out at the conference

Ries says: (12:02:54 PM) okido

michelle says: (12:03:00 PM) with accessible games and our handouts and such

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (12:03:09 PM) OK cool

michelle says: (12:03:52 PM) regarding the private wiki -- i don't think we need it at this point. if people know what we have on schedule maybe it will interested them even more. 

michelle says: (12:03:58 PM) thx!

Barrie (One Switch) says: (12:04:05 PM) Thomas, is the area getting too full? There's a few mistakes around Doom 3 [cc], and I think Eric's "Strange Attractors" is going to be updated.

Barrie (One Switch) says: (12:04:16 PM) Regarding the upload area.

Barrie (One Switch) says: (12:04:43 PM) I'm just trying to upload Doom 3 [cc] bits, as I'm guessing Reid will be super busy.

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (12:04:51 PM) no I have about 40 GB left there 

Barrie (One Switch) says: (12:05:06 PM) Okydoke. No problem.

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (12:05:13 PM) for the CD, I need to know: - a deadline for submitting stuff, I'd prefer at least one week before GDC, i.e March 13? - decide how many records to burn, would 100 be enough?

michelle says: (12:05:27 PM) ok i have to leave shortly -- since we are running out of time let's table the talk about the schedule for monday so that we have more time to talk about it. can anyone come to the meeting an hour earlier? we may need two hours!

michelle says: (12:05:49 PM) yes that deadline sounds great -- not sure about how many

Ries says: (12:05:55 PM) That's actually better since then Sander and I will be at work

michelle says: (12:06:00 PM) we might want a bit more to hand out

michelle says: (12:06:07 PM) i'll have the sig business cards with me

thombusc says: (12:06:07 PM) me too...I have an appointenmt here

Barrie (One Switch) says: (12:06:10 PM) Sorry, I can't make Monday's earlier. 5pm GMT is a push as is, but I'm happy to come in late.

Ries says: (12:06:11 PM) oh... not this Monday actually... but nevertheless, I think that's oky

thombusc says: (12:06:15 PM) have a good week end everyone!

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (12:06:33 PM) I'm sorry, I checked my cal. Monday evening is booked already. But I catch up via the maillist

michelle says: (12:06:38 PM) Ok let's stick with the regular time then

Ries says: (12:06:47 PM) that's fine too..

michelle says: (12:06:48 PM) and then we'll post the chat on the wiki

goran.lange@ped.su.se (E-mail Address Not Verified) says: (12:06:58 PM) I can't attend this monday actually

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (12:07:04 PM) good

michelle says: (12:07:21 PM) that's fine -- everyone won't be able to attend every meeting. we just need to have regular times

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (12:07:27 PM) yes

michelle says: (12:07:37 PM) is two meetings a week enough?

michelle says: (12:07:49 PM) we could add a third, say, on wednesday

Arthit73 says: (12:08:00 PM) I am still here but I'm doing online schoolwork as well.

Ries says: (12:08:16 PM) wednesday suits me best actually

Ries says: (12:08:22 PM) much better than mondays

Barrie (One Switch) says: (12:08:58 PM) I just need to know that myself and Eric have got the okay to run with the presentation we're planning, Michelle. Can you give any more away before you post on the Wiki?

michelle says: (12:09:00 PM) ok let's set up meetings then at the same time monday, wednesday and friday just to keep moving. i'll send around everyone's msn ids in case i miss one of them so you all can find one another! 

Ries says: (12:09:13 PM) great!

michelle says: (12:09:25 PM) did you send me something on your plan?

Ries says: (12:09:26 PM) good work, Michelle. (pat on the shoulder)

michelle says: (12:09:33 PM) i think you guys should be good to go

michelle says: (12:09:52 PM) at least an hour will be on mobility disabilities and accessibility

Barrie (One Switch) says: (12:10:41 PM) Okay - I'll get thinking. I'll e-mail a little later, Eric and we can get started if this sounds okay?

Barrie (One Switch) says: (12:11:16 PM) Okay to tie this up with learning disabilities too? Or is this being covered else where?

michelle says: (12:11:19 PM) sounds great!

michelle says: (12:11:29 PM) ah yes -- we might then expand yours to two hours

michelle says: (12:11:44 PM) i'd like us to separate the areas a bit

michelle says: (12:11:54 PM) but we can work around whatever you guys plan out

Barrie (One Switch) says: (12:12:24 PM) Sounds sensible. Okay Eric, I don't want to take advantage, so I'll e-mail you off list and get things all okay.

Ries says: (12:12:25 PM) ok...

michelle says: (12:12:47 PM) ok so i must run now -- anything else before we end the meeting?

Ries says: (12:12:55 PM) To Robert: I received your email and will reply it soon

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (12:13:04 PM) not that I can think of

Arthit73 says: (12:13:11 PM) I look forward to your reply very much

michelle says: (12:13:19 PM) ok great -- see many of you monday then! 

Barrie (One Switch) says: (12:13:23 PM) Nope - have a great weekend everyone. Type later.

Ries says: (12:13:24 PM) till monay!

Arthit73 says: (12:13:35 PM) Remind me one more time you are with pin interactive? Richard right

Ries says: (12:13:44 PM) No

Barrie (One Switch) says: (12:13:45 PM) You're just showing off now!

Ries says: (12:14:00 PM) Richard = Ries = AudioGames.net = Sudo-San = SoundSupport.net

Ries says: (12:14:11 PM) 

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (12:14:12 PM) Thomas = Pin Interactive

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (12:14:25 PM) also Göran

Arthit73 says: (12:14:27 PM) Okay now I remember. I got it right. Please do reply.

goran.lange@ped.su.se (E-mail Address Not Verified) says: (12:14:30 PM) yes

michelle says: (12:14:36 PM) bye everyone -- you guys can keep chatting if you like 

Arthit73 says: (12:14:41 PM) Thanks for that Thomas

goran.lange@ped.su.se (E-mail Address Not Verified) says: (12:14:41 PM) bye

Ries says: (12:14:42 PM) bye!

thomaswestin = Skype ID says: (12:14:44 PM) OK, bye

goran.lange@ped.su.se (E-mail Address Not Verified) says: (12:14:48 PM) I gotta go too

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Barrie (One Switch) says: (12:14:53 PM) Bye all.

goran.lange@ped.su.se (E-mail Address Not Verified) says: (12:14:54 PM) nice to meet u all

Dimitris says: (12:14:56 PM) bye.... got to go too...

Arthit73 says: (12:15:00 PM) Thank you all I hope we can meet someplace accessible if I make it to the conference

Eric says: (12:15:09 PM) bye =)